[Gnimitz]

Time to go ask if En Masse will let people located in the EU play on US servers with a US copy of the game.

So, here is my question that I posted

"Scapes mentioned in this post that we could ask questions, and in my skimming of the fourteen or so pages, I noticed this question asked, but not yet answered. So, I shall add mine to pile;

Will players located in the EU be able to purchase a US copy of the game, and play on US servers? Does En Masse plan to block non US ip's from connecting to US servers.

I appreciate En Masse may not make the game directly available to people in the EU, but there are ways to get ahold of a US copy.

This was a similar concern with Aion and other mmos. So far games like WoW, WaR, Aion, AoC... have all made it possible for people from the EU to play on the US servers with a US copy of the game. AoC was the best at this because you could actually get the game directly from them, for whatever region you wanted to play in.


It's important to mention this does not just affect EU nationals, but also US citizens and military personal that are for whatever reason, not on the continental US.

Thank you.

P.S> I do like that the official forums are not going to be separated, this was a big problem for WaR, who used a (very bad) third party to publish their game in Europe, and had very restricted forums."

[Aodh]

En Masse probably won't mind that. But I doubt Frogster won't. Considering the amount of money they probably spent to buy the license, I bet they'll do all they can to get an IP restriction for US servers towards EU players.

[Novos]

It depends on which country in the EU you are from I think.

I'm from the UK and they don't really ban games with blood unless it's really graphic like manhunt 2 (ban was eventually lifted though)

Tera is also rated 18+ so some countries with stricter laws may ban it due to 'blood''gore''nudity'(which is a LOAD OF BULL).
I seriously hope they don't mess with the castanics because if they do I will REALLY be miffed.

[Geno]

wait does this mean that frogster will be handling the tera box in cologne at gdc this year?

[Cyanios]

Personaly, it wont have much editing before being out in norway, as far as i see, it's not too bloody for a +18 game.

[Geno]

Cyanios, on 15 July 2010 - 06:07 AM, said:

Personaly, it wont have much editing before being out in norway, as far as i see, it's not too bloody for a +18 game.

sure but only if frogster looks at each country on its own... what happens if they feel lazy and generalize the game. what i mean is they will look at the country with the strictest rules and make all other client in Europe the same... that way they save on time.... that would be very very very unfortunate...

[Caelixian]

Just so you all know, since I'm seeing it come up quite a bit, from everything we know the only ones with the power to change the client directly are BHS.

What that means is the game and it's content will remain the same be it published in Korea, America, or Europe. As Logarn said, with the blood issue it's all about location anyway - if En Masse had published in Europe they would have had to type bloodspatter=0 instead of bloodspatter=1 in the .ini file themselves, so the publisher really has nothing to do with local rules.

What it does mean is that regardless of publisher, you won't see Castanics or any other race looking different from one version of the game to the other. If 18+ games are banned in your area, this one will be too. You won't get a Castanic half-covered by black blocks in your one region.

Hope that helps some of the confusion!

[Valaka]

Honestly folks it's really funny to see you folks QQing and think you know better then profesionals. As I said a lot of times. You folks link frog to F2p games, now they got a p2p game, this frog made a change, thus frog can change. Do you folks truly think BHS and EM will let EU rot if Frog service for tera becomes poor?

There is a lot lot lot more behind this deal. And we'll NEVER know, why, cause business is done behind closed doors. Who knows maybe BHS owns 49% of the shares of Frog, maybe this or maybe that, we'll never know!

[Cyanios]

oh i can see it, castinic's running round with black bloxes:D

[Apollonius]

Cyanios, on 15 July 2010 - 07:12 AM, said:

oh i can see it, castinic's running round with black bloxes:D

your graphics card is just fried

[Melkren]

Valaka, on 15 July 2010 - 07:02 AM, said:

Honestly folks it's really funny to see you folks QQing and think you know better then profesionals. As I said a lot of times. You folks link frog to F2p games, now they got a p2p game, this frog made a change, thus frog can change. Do you folks truly think BHS and EM will let EU rot if Frog service for tera becomes poor?

There is a lot lot lot more behind this deal. And we'll NEVER know, why, cause business is done behind closed doors. Who knows maybe BHS owns 49% of the shares of Frog, maybe this or maybe that, we'll never know!

Well said, i want to feel optimistic about frogger being better than they were. Maybe if they have a steady income from subscribers and bluehole have their backs they might pull it off. Hopefuly they will get decent servers. Has it been stated if they will have 24 hour support like en masse? hopefuly it's a requirement from bluehole that they have this feature.

[Nobody]

Generally speaking, there will probably be one client with different options to turn on/off. Blood could be one of the options that's just grayed out for the Euros. I doubt that they would change the options on a country-by-country basis, though I have been wrong before.

[Cori]

I still wonder what made BHS choose Frogster
One thing I could think of (as someone that comes from the IT field) is that the Frogster staff's payment would be less than in other countries in the EU due to the effect of the f.crisis? No idea tbh But yeah, you guyz are right, let's be optimistic.
Popori cat cakes for everyone :3

[J0K3R 3D]

Melkren, on 15 July 2010 - 07:16 AM, said:

Well said, i want to feel optimistic about frogger being better than they were. Maybe if they have a steady income from subscribers and bluehole have their backs they might pull it off. Hopefuly they will get decent servers. Has it been stated if they will have 24 hour support like en masse? hopefuly it's a requirement from bluehole that they have this feature.

Its possible they will be better this time around, thats true. But its silly to think they were not making money before. Even F2P games make money somehow, be it with ads, MT's, or whatever other method, they make money and its from its players. Obviously they didnt really care back then. Even though they stand to make more with TERA there is no reason to believe they'll likely do a better job this time around.

Also its very possible Blue Hole and/or EnMasse didnt do their homework very well before signing the contract. Why would you assume they did? All Frogster would need is a good sales pitch and enough zero's in their sales figures and they can convince any business theyre the right choice. Ive no idea why anyone would think "Blue Hole/Enmasse wouldnt do this without good reason" when we dont have any real experience with them yet. For all we know they can be worse than NCSoft or Frogster.

[Cyanios]

tbh, if they remove blood for me, i'm going to be ******, i want to see my targets bleed:D

[Aodh]

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You folks link frog to F2p games

I don't.The only experience I have with Frogster was on Spellborn, and it was supposed to be their first P2P mmo. And they failed horribly. Although the servers didn't suffer from any kind of lag, but it would have been quite surprising knowing there were maybe 20 characters playing simultaneously.
So yes I'm afraid, but yea I still hope they'll do better this time. I would hate to see another game with innovative combat gameplay fail because of Frogster at a time where I believe MMOs need new ideas badly.

[Hwin]

I have played the Chinese version of WoW before and that has modifications to skeletons and death. Since visible bones on human looking characters are culturally wrong Blizzard had modified their client. This delays WolK by 6 months for that change and caused a huge patching problem for Alterac Valley. Although I would like to see the effects of change if any on the European audience.

[Apollonius]

i doubt T.E.R.A will need any changes for Europe...

[Lunedhiver]

Hmm...if the frog really plan to remove blood from the game, it has made a very bad start x)
As the trailer they put on their site....is the one showing a bloody castanic girl at the beginning :

http://www.tera-euro...m/en/index.html

[Helspyre]

As Novos said, it has to do with your country's laws. It has nothing to do with the publisher. I think Germany has some pretty strict guidelines about violence ratings in games sold in their country but I don't know the specifics.